Gorgon`s Alliance

[Espen A. Johnsen]

Q: What effect do you get when a province is rebellious in the game? I've just
made 4 of the gorgons provinces rebell.

Q: Who do you get more blood abbilities? I've gotten the crown witch give
+20(30)bloodpoints but I didn't get any new abbilities.

Q: What do you do when you earn way to little RP and way too mutch money, even
with buying the army? I've got a little bit over 1000GB in the tresury that I
just cant get ridd off.

Otherwise the Gorgon's Alliance is an exelent game!

EAJ

[Sepsis]

At 11:53 PM 9/1/97 -0400, Paul Lefebvre(banshee16@comnet.ca)wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the computer game is any good?? I have just
>returned from camping for the last week and a half and it hadn't been
>released out here yet when I left...is the RPG angle any good? Are
>there good adventures? What are the graphics like? Or is it simply a
>strategy game??
>

I've been enjoying the game myself. The graphics are good, but not
fantastic. But this seems to be a good thing as the game devotes most of its
energy to the AI, not pretty pictures. The "Adventures" are alright. I was
tougher on them when I first started playing the game, but I've warmed up to
them now. Its worth its low price tag, and it is a good approximation of a
BR game. Although it is way to "high magic" to be a real BR game.

P.S. - If you get the game, keep an eye on Sierra's website for patches and
upgrades(free for the taking). The Character Editor is very cool.

Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html

[chrys murphy]

Paul Lefebvre wrote:
>
> I just bought the Gorgon's Alliance game this weekend after hearing how
> good it was from a number of people on this list. It is definitely a
> cool game. Unfortunately, the rulebook is VERY vague and totally
> incomplete...leaving me with a number of questions for people who have
> the game.
>
> 1) Can characters gain levels in this game? Do they gain XP? Can they
> learn new spells? If so, how do they do that? New realm spells?
>
> 2) When adventuring, how do you use the fly spell? I cast it but my
> characters don't seem to leave the ground (to get those pesky warriors
> hiding on ledges).
>
> 3) When adventuring, how do you open doors, search dead bodies, or look
> for secret doors?
>
> 4) How do you defeat skeleton units? I'm playing Fhilaerene of
> Tuarhievel, and some guy named Chaos (is that random monsters perhaps??)
> keeps putting single units of skeletons in my borders....it often takes
> 3+ units to get rid of them, with heavy losses.
>
> 5) How do you improve your diplomacy score with another realm? I was
> full allies with Dhoesone but they kept sending assassins into my
> country and contesting my holdings so I took away 6 of their provinces.
> I could easily destroy them because I've wiped out all their armies and
> taken their most profitable provinces, but all I want to do is make them
> vassals. I would like to raise diplomacy scores with other realms as
> well, but some (like Sielwode arent' there as an option when I use
> diplomacy....and I know they haven't been conquered yet).
>
> 6) How do you kill another regent? I've killed the regent of Dhoesone
> 4 times (her unit) but she never seems to die, just retreats.
>
> That's enough for now. Any answers to these questions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Paul L.
>
> ************************************************** ***************
Some Answers

1) To have characters go up in levels you have to use the Adventure
Action a LOT. I am running Ilien with Rogr Aglondier & He has gone up 3
levels so far.
To Learn new spells, you must again, Adventure, there are Mystical Tomes
you can locate & use to learn new spells - including Realm Spells.
2) To Fly, you need to hold down the A key to gain altitude & just let
it go to lose altitude.
3)You cannot search dead bodies, to open doors you need to walk right up
to them & press the SHIFT key, and to look for Secret Doors - the only
methods I've found are to look at the Map for "Missing " areas & then
walk along the walls around that area pressing the SHIFT key a lot
(Though secret doors are SUPPOSSED to look slightly different to the
rest of the walls).
4) To destroy Skeletons, use the Diplomacy or Lieutenant(Create) actions
to get a Priest & use his Turn Undead skill - treated as a spell in the
game which really sucks. Chaos is the uncontrolled things such as
bandits, raiders, etc.
5) You can't, even if they are a vassal, they'll still send assassins,
another annoying part of the game. The reason you can't use diplomacy
with some realms, is that it's regent has already been
Assassinated/Killed and the game doesn't appoint replacements.
6)You can only kill a regent with the Assassinate part of the Espionage
Action, they will ALWAYS miraculously escape from the battlefield, no
matter how crushing their defeat.

As fr the rulebook, Sierra maintain a much more detailed version at
their website which you can access.

Hope this helps a bit
Chrys M.

[jaaxx]

Sorry but I just joined the list and haven't heard of the Gorgon's
Alliance. What is it?

[Dan Siani]

> I've another question. You need to be in an enemy province with
> your armies but with none of their own, at the end of the domain turn
> to be able to invest it the next. Is there any other way? My brother
> is playing it on my computer too and he's running Aerenwe. Roesone kept
> causing all sorts of problems though they were allies so he conquered
> everything they had except for 3 provinces. Now he has Bellam. But he
> keeps getting messages that the Spider is trying to invest the province
> (and thus he has to waste regency defending it) even though he has
> troops there and the Spider doesn't...why is that?
> BTW, is it a game flaw that I can't raise elven units in provinces
> I've conquered from human realms?? I've tried taking the provinces down
> to 0 and rebuilding as an elven province, but it doesn't seem to
> help....


I am not sure. If you have troops there the Spider should not be able
to invest the province. I can only suggest that your brother takes a
couple of actions and takes control of every holding in that province.
Either by getting the holding owner to swear fealty(giving you the
holdings) or by occupying your province(this will only drop everyones
holdongs to 0) or by contesting everything(this gets rid of all claims
of their's on holdings in your realm)If that doesn't work then take out
the Spider. My opinion occupy the province and he will not be able to
even attempt to invest it and then take total control over your
province. Make sure you have the law holdings first. As for the
raising of elven units, this can only be done in elven lands. Those
with the game starts out as elven, not the newly conquered one.

I hope this helps.

Dan

[Brian Stoner]

jaaxx wrote:

> Sorry but I just joined the list and haven't heard of the
> Gorgon's
> Alliance. What is it?
>

The Gorgon's Alliance is a computer game based on Birthright put out
by Sierra (it's only been out a month). It is designed for IBM
compatibe PCs. It is good game, which incorporates the Domain, battle,
as well as adventure aspects of Birthright. It is not perfect, but it
is fun. There are plans to put out later versions and sequals. For
example, the current version is based only in Anuire and has no seaborn
activities or the Shadow World. Neither does it have bloodtheft or some
of the other things we have come to know and love. Future versions wil
have these incorporated as well. It is still fun to pay, though.

- -Brian

[Paul Lefebvre]

> I am not sure. If you have troops there the Spider should not be able
>
> to invest the province. I can only suggest that your brother takes a
> couple of actions and takes control of every holding in that province.
>
> Either by getting the holding owner to swear fealty(giving you the
> holdings) or by occupying your province(this will only drop everyones
> holdongs to 0) or by contesting everything(this gets rid of all claims
>
> of their's on holdings in your realm)If that doesn't work then take
> out
> the Spider. My opinion occupy the province and he will not be able to
>
> even attempt to invest it and then take total control over your
> province. Make sure you have the law holdings first. As for the
> raising of elven units, this can only be done in elven lands. Those
> with the game starts out as elven, not the newly conquered one.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Dan

It is a bug. It happened to me. I defeated an army of the gorgon's
when he invaded Tuarhievel (I attacked Markazor so I could invest the
provinces between me and the Sielwode so I could go and give help).
Every time the Gorgon tries to interfere, I've placed a ley line into
the middle of his territory and just let rip with raze and death plague
spells...keeps him busy. In any case, one unit of his survived,
retreated to one of my provinces with 8 units of mine in it already, and
then promptly started trying to invest, even after I'd killed it. It
seems to have stopped now.

Paul L.

[Paul Lefebvre]

Espen A. Johnsen wrote:

> Q: What effect do you get when a province is rebellious in the game?
> I've just
> made 4 of the gorgons provinces rebell.
>
> Q: Who do you get more blood abbilities? I've gotten the crown witch
> give
> +20(30)bloodpoints but I didn't get any new abbilities.
>
> Q: What do you do when you earn way to little RP and way too mutch
> money, even
> with buying the army? I've got a little bit over 1000GB in the
> tresury that I
> just cant get ridd off.
>
> Otherwise the Gorgon's Alliance is an exelent game!

This is a great game. Yesterday I put a ley line into Kal-Saitharak
and razed the whole castle....he he he. And I've found mages with
fireballs or necklaces of missiles work REMARKABLY well against skeleton
units...:)

Paul L.