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c558382@showme.missouri.
01-26-1998, 06:05 PM
On Sun, 25 Jan, Waise Azimi wrote:

> I am disturbed by the term "ignoble war" War is never noble
>and never mark me never has a noble war been fought in the
>history of this planet.

On the contrary, "“Genuine nobility derives from arms, and it
is through arms that it must be maintained. Making war is an
essential condition both of its existence and its survival."
(Pierre de Vassiere) I suspect you have confused “nobilit with some
synonym of “good” in a bourgeois sense. Nobilitis the demonstration of
your superiority of courage, honor, and obligation. The noble person
fears nothing, and demonstrates this. He has honor and refuses to allow
lessor persons to injure him or his dependents in word or deed. He
demands respect and fights to silence disrespect. Though he is not
petty. Because of his superiority he is obligated to serve
the inferior, to protect, provide justice, and to keep order
for the benefit of the inferior.

Duty, loyalty, independent self respect, these denote the noble.
It is vital to maintain the respect of those below and those
above you, and the best way to do this is to boldly meet every
challenge. The noble was brought up on heroic tales, risked its
life in the hunt, measured swords with anybody who impugned its
honor, and exercised a daily habit of command on his lands.

Civilized means to live under civil society, it does not mean
humanitarian, or egalitarian, or anything like that. It means
1) to live under the rule of law, and 2) the law is not provided
by priests.

The past is another country. They do things differently there.

Kenneth Gauck
C558382@showme.missouri.edu

Daniel McSorley
01-26-1998, 07:08 PM
>> I am disturbed by the term "ignoble war" War is never noble
>>and never mark me never has a noble war been fought in the
>>history of this planet.
>
>On the contrary, "“Genuine nobility derives from arms, and it
>is through arms that it must be maintained. Making war is an
>essential condition both of its existence and its survival."
>(Pierre de Vassiere)