[Birthright] - Osoerde Sea Trad

[Memnoch]

I think you are overlooking the aspect that ships can be used in Realm
Defense as well as trade routes. Also, Jaison Raenech could have come to
power a few years ago (at the start of the campaign) and started building a
fleet then, with the intention of ruling up the Gulfport province and
establishing trade then. Just because you don't have a level 4 province
doesn't mean that you can't have a fleet. It just means that you can't do
any seagoing trade. But then again, who knows.

Memnoch
- -----Original Message-----
From: J. D. Lail
To: Birthright@MPGN.COM
Date: Monday, March 09, 1998 1:28 AM
Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - [Birthright] - Osoerde Sea Trade Glitch


>I just secured a copy of Cities of the Sun * It says that in order
>to create a Sea Trade Route you must have a coastal province rated
>4 or higher. Osoerde has none but has a fleet of 3 Galleons, 6
>Caravels and 2 coasters (also from CoS). Why ? This is contradictory
>unless Osoerde is not trading with these ships. Maybe William Moergens
>father was a collector. Yeah that's Right ! That's the ticket. What a
>maroon. Shoot, he needed killing. Now let me enter that on my master
>flowchart. :) Da dum da dum dum (Hums happily).
>
>Seriously any ideas out there ?
>
>*from the Hit Pointe On-Line shop,
> 1) I queried on Sunday nite,
> 2) They answered Tuesday nite,
> 3) I ordered on Wendesday,
> 4) The items arrived on Saturday.
>
> Not too damn shabby IMHO.
>
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[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, J. D. Lail wrote:

> I just secured a copy of Cities of the Sun * It says that in order
> to create a Sea Trade Route you must have a coastal province rated
> 4 or higher. Osoerde has none but has a fleet of 3 Galleons, 6
> Caravels and 2 coasters (also from CoS). Why ? This is contradictory
> unless Osoerde is not trading with these ships. Maybe William Moergens
> father was a collector. Yeah that's Right ! That's the ticket. What a
> maroon. Shoot, he needed killing. Now let me enter that on my master
> flowchart. :) Da dum da dum dum (Hums happily).
>
> Seriously any ideas out there ?

Sure: Gulfport was originally a province 4, but was pillaged in the War of
Succession by the forces of Jaison Raenech when Gulfport attempted to
support William Moergen. Of course, Raenech may use them to pirate the sea
trade lanes rather than for trade himself.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[James Ruhland]

These are not trade vessles, but a naval fleet, which is parhaps used for
piracy as well. I.E. no TRs, just a fine battle fleet.
>
> I just secured a copy of Cities of the Sun * It says that in order
> to create a Sea Trade Route you must have a coastal province rated
> 4 or higher. Osoerde has none but has a fleet of 3 Galleons, 6
> Caravels and 2 coasters (also from CoS). Why ? This is contradictory
> unless Osoerde is not trading with these ships. Maybe William Moergens
> father was a collector. Yeah that's Right ! That's the ticket. What a
> maroon. Shoot, he needed killing. Now let me enter that on my master
> flowchart. :) Da dum da dum dum (Hums happily).
>
> Seriously any ideas out there ?
>
> *from the Hit Pointe On-Line shop,
> 1) I queried on Sunday nite,
> 2) They answered Tuesday nite,
> 3) I ordered on Wendesday,
> 4) The items arrived on Saturday.
>
> Not too damn shabby IMHO.
>
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[relve@Otdk.Helsinki.F]

> I just secured a copy of Cities of the Sun * It says that in order
> to create a Sea Trade Route you must have a coastal province rated
> 4 or higher. Osoerde has none but has a fleet of 3 Galleons, 6
> Caravels and 2 coasters (also from CoS). Why ? This is contradictory
> unless Osoerde is not trading with these ships. Maybe William Moergens
> father was a collector. Yeah that's Right ! That's the ticket. What a
> maroon. Shoot, he needed killing. Now let me enter that on my master
> flowchart. :) Da dum da dum dum (Hums happily).
>
> Seriously any ideas out there ?

I prefer to construe the rule this way:

ANY province which shows coastal line and is 4th level or higer is
considered to have a port. This does not mean that a 3rd level
province could not have a port or that all 4th+ level coastal
provinces must have a port.

Kaarel