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Kyle Foster
04-09-1998, 10:05 AM
Does anyone have any thoughts on what languge the Andu spoke and the
Anurians speak now? Some of the names should welsh and celtic, but I
can't pin it down. The reason I ask is I want to give magic items names
and I hate saying something like "it's name means "Spirt of Fire"
ancient Andurian, but I have no idea what that is." So any thoughts on
the language or a real world on that others think would fit well with
birthright would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Kyle
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All These Years"

Tim Nutting
04-09-1998, 10:44 AM
Depends what your take on Aduria is. Darkstar and I seem to be semi
similar, but he's gon a lot farther and developed actual cultures for the
continent, right now all my stuff is still in that brainchild phase.

As far as what we have in Cerilia so far (I imagine that Aduria would not
be the same as the others) we have:

Anuire: English/Spannish(minute)/French
Khinasi: Middle East/Near East
Rjurik: Scandinavian/Scottish
Vos: Slovak
Brecht: German (Holy Roman Imperial eras)

Possibilities, if being drawn from a real world are (to me): African,
Eurasian, Asian, Indian, Native Americans and the South Americans

For my own thoughts, I have the Masetians as a Greek people, so I guess the
Adurians might be Roman or perhaps a great mixing of them all into a
fantasy language people that have no real world ties.

Good Gaming

Tim Nutting/Zero

Mark A Vandermeulen
04-09-1998, 01:07 PM
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Kyle Foster wrote:

> Does anyone have any thoughts on what languge the Andu spoke and the
> Anurians speak now? Some of the names should welsh and celtic, but I
> can't pin it down. The reason I ask is I want to give magic items names
> and I hate saying something like "it's name means "Spirt of Fire"
> ancient Andurian, but I have no idea what that is." So any thoughts on
> the language or a real world on that others think would fit well with
> birthright would be most appreciated.

I typically use Welsh for Elvish names, but you're right, many of the
Anuirean names seem celtic--I suspect the Anuireans "borrowed" a lot of
place names from the elves and later "Anuireanized" them. Still, some of
the Emperors' names sound pretty elvish as well (Alandalae and
Caercuilllen come to mind), so perhaps it was "fashionable" to give
children elvish names during the height of the Empire. Or perhaps the
Anuirean language is more of a fusion of Old Andu and Elvish (Sheighlein?)
than I'm giving it credit for. I tend to think that Anuirean culture
looks and sounds rather like a combination of classical celtic culture and
renaissance italian culture (which is perhaps why many people think
"medieval french/german"). Although that might be a bias of having most of
my Anuirean experience in the Southern Coast, which is a little more
Italianate than the rest of Anuire.
What it comes down to, as far as naming things in Anuirean, is that I
come up with a name that "sounds" properly anuirean, figure out how to
spell it with the goofy Anuirean dipthong system, and make up whatever
meaning I want it to have. As long as you don't go around cataloging the
meaning of names and things, this system should work pretty well.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

darkstar
04-09-1998, 04:33 PM
Tim Nutting wrote:
>
> Depends what your take on Aduria is. Darkstar and I seem to be semi
> similar, but he's gon a lot farther and developed actual cultures for the
> continent, right now all my stuff is still in that brainchild phase.
>
> As far as what we have in Cerilia so far (I imagine that Aduria would not
> be the same as the others) we have:
>
> Anuire: English/Spannish(minute)/French
> Khinasi: Middle East/Near East
> Rjurik: Scandinavian/Scottish
> Vos: Slovak
> Brecht: German (Holy Roman Imperial eras)
>
> Possibilities, if being drawn from a real world are (to me): African,
> Eurasian, Asian, Indian, Native Americans and the South Americans

I have a compination of cultures, and some I have made up my south. The
South American culture feature strongly in the history as the first
civilised race, but they have now since died out, although their
decendants covered the south of the continent. They are the tribe that
worships Basaia/Avani by the way.
I have also thrown in some Mongolian, Egyptian cultures, as well as
several others. Most of the info on my webpage at the moment only covers
the actual kingdom and principalities and doesn't give any of the
background, history or culture yet but I do have everything planned out
and just have to type it up.


> For my own thoughts, I have the Masetians as a Greek people, so I guess the
> Adurians might be Roman or perhaps a great mixing of them all into a
> fantasy language people that have no real world ties.

I am using the Roman Empire as a template for the Adurian Empire,
although it will be more advanced, but similar in many ways.

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Shade
04-10-1998, 06:56 AM
>Possibilities, if being drawn from a real world are (to me): African,
>Eurasian, Asian, Indian, Native Americans and the South Americans

My idea for Djapar has Asians and Indians as the main races there.

>For my own thoughts, I have the Masetians as a Greek people, so I guess the
>Adurians might be Roman or perhaps a great mixing of them all into a
>fantasy language people that have no real world ties.
>
>Good Gaming
>
>Tim Nutting/Zero
>
>
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Kyle Foster
04-10-1998, 09:46 AM
D'oh. Speaking as a third generation Irish American I can only say
that I was real tired when I wrote the original post and used the word
celtic instead of gaelic. I was thinking culture. Anyway my thanks for
the responses as it has given me a starting place and some concret ideas
to work form.

Thanks,
Kyle
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"What's so amazing about really deep thoughts?" - Tori Amos, "Silent
All These Years"

Trizt
04-10-1998, 11:55 AM
On 09-Apr-98, Tremiere (Tremiere@aol.com) wrote about Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] -
Andurian Language:
- ->In a message dated 98-04-09 06:05:23 EDT, you write:

- -> Anurians speak now? Some of the names should welsh and celtic, but I
- -> can't pin it down. >>
- ->The language is Gaelic.
I don't think that's not so importnat, for most there is nothign different
between celtic and gaelic, we se other such missunderstandings like
'scandinavian' (which really should have been 'north-germanic').

- -> I found a humorous trnaslation in Abbatoir, not
- ->Abbatuor.. which is up in the Gorgon's Crown.. which means the butcher's
- ->floor...

Found any other such names which are based of "strange" words?

//Trizt of Ward^RITE

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tiphareth
04-10-1998, 07:35 PM
my first post to the list [gulp]. well, here goes:

at 03:44 am 9.4.98 -0700, tim nutting wrote:

>Possibilities, if being drawn from a real world are (to me): African,
>Eurasian, Asian, Indian, Native Americans and the South Americans
>
>For my own thoughts, I have the Masetians as a Greek people, so I guess the
>Adurians might be Roman or perhaps a great mixing of them all into a
>fantasy language people that have no real world ties.

our campaign has no masetian development, but the adurians are being
modelled after north africa (ever see the movie stargate? like in that:) we
have one adurian pc (no +/- to ability scores), and she has a *very* hebrew
name.

basically: if you were to place the human cultures on a map of the earth,
our adurians would be to the west of the khinasi.

my $0.02 ;)

cheers,

- -tiphareth