Contesting Castles?

[DKEvermore]

In a message dated 4/28/98 10:14:16 AM, eric@cyberserv.com wrote:



Hmm. I'd have to "contest" ;) this claim. While I agree a
castle/fortification has political value, it does not have law or any other
holding intrinsically. It can only fortify existing holdings.

[Jake Cotter]

> A castle is the mightiest fortification devised by
humankind thus far on
> Cerilia and deserves special attention. Not, "Well,
you've invested the
> province with nothing more than a contest, contest,
invest. The castle's
> yours."
>
> -DK Evermore

I have to agree with this. Historically, many monarchs
forbid their vassals from raising castles, because those
castles were such great bastards to take. I can't think of
a way a castle can be "contested" in any reasonable sense.

On another note, there is no way someone could raise a
castle without the consent of the provence's ruler. Whoever
controls the castle, controls the provence. It's more than
fortified holdings. A castle is a way of projecting your
rule over a large territory.

What the rules say about this is another argument
entirely...

[Aaron Sanderson]

___It has been said____
>> A castle is the mightiest fortification devised by
>humankind thus far on
>> Cerilia and deserves special attention. Not, "Well,
>you've invested the
>> province with nothing more than a contest, contest,
>invest. The castle's
>> yours."
>>
>> -DK Evermore
>
>I have to agree with this. Historically, many monarchs
>forbid their vassals from raising castles, because those
>castles were such great bastards to take. I can't think of
>a way a castle can be "contested" in any reasonable sense.
>
>On another note, there is no way someone could raise a
>castle without the consent of the provence's ruler. Whoever
>controls the castle, controls the provence. It's more than
>fortified holdings. A castle is a way of projecting your
>rule over a large territory.
>
>What the rules say about this is another argument
>entirely...


No doubt. Castles were the only way that Edward I was able to hold
ground in Wales. However, when He let other nobles control castles,
e.g. Scotland, it backfired on his son and the English crown lost a
hefty chunk of the realm. Until the invention of the cannon the only
real way to take a castle was to starve the inhabitants out which did
sometimes take years. And that isn't something I can see most Good
aligned players doing.

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[Shade]

At 04:44 PM 4/28/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:02:20 EDT Drake90094 writes:
>>>>help me, i cant figure out thgis thing!!
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>
>
>Sepsis,
>Would you PLEASE ban this guy from the mailing list? He hasn't
>contributed a single positive thing, and just spams us weekly. It is
>getting slightly annoying.
>
>Benjamin

Funny, I was about to say the same thing...