2 questions

[Kyle Foster]

A yes, the old choice of the half elven. I'm probably going to use
that in my game as well. Elrond as Mark ointed out choose to be counted
among the first born, the Elves while his borther (who I am embaressed
to admit I can;t remeber his name at the moement) choose to be counted
among the second born the humans. He later became King of Numenor(sp).

Arewn chose to be counted among the humans as well for the reason Mark
described but her two brothers choose to be counted among the elves, and
it was hinted that this seperation caused some degree of strain between
the two borthers and Aragorn. I mention this only because it sounds
like a an excellent role playing opertuninty for a half eleven player.

Kyle
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I'd risk it all to have wings,
I know if I try I'll get where I'm going
keeping my eyes on the sky"
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[Bearcat]

>Also, regarding mages with source domains, how do they make any GBs?
>They have no tax revenue, and no tithes to rely on, and no guild
>profits, do they simply rely on the good will of the others in their
>domains? At first level they can't even hope to create magical items to
>sell.

I believe that they either sell their services (admit it, even a
first level realm spell is pretty darn powerful) or they use the alchemy
spell to literally make money.

Bearcat
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[Bruce Anderson]

A couple of questions have arisen for me recently, and if anyone can
answer them I would appreciate it.

Can anyone tell me how long half elves are supposed to live? I am
assuming they are not immortal, since they also have human blood in
them, but the book does not say.

Also, regarding mages with source domains, how do they make any GBs?
They have no tax revenue, and no tithes to rely on, and no guild
profits, do they simply rely on the good will of the others in their
domains? At first level they can't even hope to create magical items to
sell.

Thanks

Bruce Anderson

[Scott Koester]

>Also, regarding mages with source domains, how do they make any GBs?

>They have no tax revenue, and no tithes to rely on, and no=20
guild
>profits,=A0 do they simply rely on the good will of the others in
their
>domains?=A0 At first level they can't even hope to create magical items
to
>sell.
>
Ahhhh.  Here you have hit upon the major challenge of being a true
wizard.  They have no way themselves, other than an Alchemy spell
(which still costs dear RP's) to accrue GB.  This is why many take
up positions as Court Wizards in order to receive payment.  One has
to be resorceful, that's for sure.  W/o taking up a position in a
court, usually the wizard has no sure fire income, so, start scheming
wizards.  :) 


Scott Koester
muaddib+@osu.edu

[Trizt]

Bruce Anderson wrote:

>Can anyone tell me how long half elves are supposed to live? I am
>assuming they are not immortal, since they also have human blood in
>them, but the book does not say.

If i don't remeber it wrong, it says in the campaignsetting that they
have the lifespan which is described in PHB, but it seems that the
half-elves of cerilia somehow manage to survive much longer. So I would
suggest to use the "elven' lifespan from PHB.

//Trizt
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[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Tue, 12 May 1998, Bruce Anderson wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how long half elves are supposed to live? I am
> assuming they are not immortal, since they also have human blood in
> them, but the book does not say.

We discussed this on the list a couple of months ago, and an interesting
idea was that it might be kind of like Elrond in the Lord of the Rings. He
was Half-elven, but he decided at some point, that he would "favor" his
elven side, and thus was immortal (and thus passed onto the utter west at
the end of the story), but his daughter Arwen, who was also half-elven,
decided to "favor" her human side so she could marry Aragorn, her true
love. Thus she didn't live happily ever after, but she did live happily to
the end of her days, which, while not eternal, were very long for a normal
human.

> Also, regarding mages with source domains, how do they make any GBs?
> They have no tax revenue, and no tithes to rely on, and no guild
> profits, do they simply rely on the good will of the others in their
> domains? At first level they can't even hope to create magical items to
> sell.

They have three choices:
1.) Adventure. A lot.
2.) Use the Alchemy Domain Spell to convert some RP into GB.
3.) Ally themselves with someone richer.

The third option is the one most PC wizards end up using (which is
generally convienent for the DM). Thus we get "court wizards" which are
semi-independent of the regent they are working with, but largely have
coinciding interests.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[Ryan B. Caveney]

On Mon, 27 Aug 1956, Kyle Foster wrote:

> that in my game as well. Elrond as Mark ointed out choose to be counted
> among the first born, the Elves while his borther (who I am embaressed

Elros, who took the royal name Tar-Minyatur.

- --Ryan

[DavTyr]

I have always assumed elves are immortal, after all they were a favorite
creation of their god (Elves Handbook), Besides A,D&D elves are based on
tolkeinien elves who didn't die but moved on.

About your 2nd question, they not only rely on the good will of their lord(s)
but can also adventure. Remember mages are a rare commodity and any regent
should be considered a fool who wouldn't do what he could to keep the loyalty
of a wizard. Birthright is supposed to be like medieval earth in mythology
where Merlin & Morgan LeFey were the only two sorcerers in all the british
Isles. (Well, not really but they were the best known.) A kingdom can rise
or fall because of the actions of one wizard, how much is that power worth to
your regent?

[Ryan B. Caveney]

On Sun, 17 May 1998, DavTyr wrote:

> Remember mages are a rare commodity and any regent should be considered
> a fool who wouldn't do what he could to keep the loyalty of a wizard.

Heck, even the DMG knows that: "Foolish is the king who does not
have a personal wizard, and lamentable is the ruler who trusts the wrong
mage." (19)

- --Ryan