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Tommy Ashton II
08-10-1998, 05:20 PM
At 03:36 PM 8/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>According to the Atlas of Cerilia (pg 16), an "awnshegh is any creature
>imbued with the blood of Azrai that traps divine essence within itself
>rather than giving it back to the land."
>
>Well, what would happen if a good aligned creature imbued with say, the
>Blood of Haelyn, kept their portion of divine essence instead of
>returning it to the land? Would it evolve into a good aligned awnshegh?
>
There were some examples of this in the Blood Enemies lesser awnshegh
section and in the Brecht sourcebook. These are called Ernshegh, I think.
There is the Trecht in the Brecht sourcebook and the Unicorn from blood
enemies that was not of Azrai's blood. I can't remember which blood
though. I don't think it has ever been decided (or I missed it) what the
actual requirement or stimuli that is needed to provoke this in the
Non-Azrai blooded. In the Blood Ebemies sourcebook most of the Ernshegh
there were formed at or near the time of Deismaar, so a very, very strong
bloodline could be the cause there but that wouldn't explain the new ernshegh.

>And on this note, I have always understood this 'divine essence' to be
>the bloodline & strength. If this is so, then all blooded individuals
>are trapping the godly essence instead of returning it are they not? So
>what makes an awnshegh so different? Is it just the amount of essence?
>
I think it is a little of both. Most awnshegh tend to have powerful blood
lines compared to most regents and I always believed that they have "bad
blood", or the blood corrupts, so the actual essence of the blood of Azrai
is to create deviants from the land. The rest of the scions bloodlines
seem to be more natural and accepted by the land.

T
>Seems I have thought myself into a corner again....
>
>Keith
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morgramen
08-10-1998, 09:36 PM
According to the Atlas of Cerilia (pg 16), an "awnshegh is any creature
imbued with the blood of Azrai that traps divine essence within itself
rather than giving it back to the land."

Well, what would happen if a good aligned creature imbued with say, the
Blood of Haelyn, kept their portion of divine essence instead of
returning it to the land? Would it evolve into a good aligned awnshegh?

And on this note, I have always understood this 'divine essence' to be
the bloodline & strength. If this is so, then all blooded individuals
are trapping the godly essence instead of returning it are they not? So
what makes an awnshegh so different? Is it just the amount of essence?

Seems I have thought myself into a corner again....

Keith

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Ben
08-11-1998, 01:46 AM
On some of the cards and extras that originally came with the br boxed
set, it described the gorgon and rhoubhe
as having a blood ability called "bloodform". It's not in the rulebook, but
I've always assumed that this blood ability
is what makes an awnsheigh/ehrsheigh.


Ben
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tommy Ashton II
To: birthright@MPGN.COM
Date: Monday, August 10, 1998 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Awnsheghlien


>At 03:36 PM 8/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>According to the Atlas of Cerilia (pg 16), an "awnshegh is any creature
>>imbued with the blood of Azrai that traps divine essence within itself
>>rather than giving it back to the land."
>>
>>Well, what would happen if a good aligned creature imbued with say, the
>>Blood of Haelyn, kept their portion of divine essence instead of
>>returning it to the land? Would it evolve into a good aligned awnshegh?
>>
>There were some examples of this in the Blood Enemies lesser awnshegh
>section and in the Brecht sourcebook. These are called Ernshegh, I think.
>There is the Trecht in the Brecht sourcebook and the Unicorn from blood
>enemies that was not of Azrai's blood. I can't remember which blood
>though. I don't think it has ever been decided (or I missed it) what the
>actual requirement or stimuli that is needed to provoke this in the
>Non-Azrai blooded. In the Blood Ebemies sourcebook most of the Ernshegh
>there were formed at or near the time of Deismaar, so a very, very strong
>bloodline could be the cause there but that wouldn't explain the new
ernshegh.
>
>>And on this note, I have always understood this 'divine essence' to be
>>the bloodline & strength. If this is so, then all blooded individuals
>>are trapping the godly essence instead of returning it are they not? So
>>what makes an awnshegh so different? Is it just the amount of essence?
>>
>I think it is a little of both. Most awnshegh tend to have powerful blood
>lines compared to most regents and I always believed that they have "bad
>blood", or the blood corrupts, so the actual essence of the blood of Azrai
>is to create deviants from the land. The rest of the scions bloodlines
>seem to be more natural and accepted by the land.
>
>T
>>Seems I have thought myself into a corner again....

Jim Cooper
08-11-1998, 02:08 AM
Ben wrote:
> On some of the cards and extras that originally came with the br boxed set, it described the gorgon and rhoubhe as having a blood ability called "bloodform". It's not in the rulebook, but I've always assumed that this blood ability is what makes an awnsheigh/ehrsheigh.<

That ability is described in the back of the Blood Enemies supp. For
ersh-dudes the ability is called 'bloodtrait', IIRC. Basically its the
same as 'bloodform', with the exception that bloodtrait allows the
recipient some measure of control over the transformation.

Cheers,
Darren

TOMMY.ASHTON@asu.ed
08-11-1998, 03:24 AM
DuoH!!!!!!! (Best Homer Simpson impression)
I bow to a much better memory than mine.

Sorry,
T

On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, Ben wrote:

> On some of the cards and extras that originally came with the br boxed
> set, it described the gorgon and rhoubhe
> as having a blood ability called "bloodform". It's not in the rulebook, but
> I've always assumed that this blood ability
> is what makes an awnsheigh/ehrsheigh.
>
>
> Ben

James Ray
08-11-1998, 01:02 PM
Indeed - In the product, "Blood Enemies: Abominations of Cerilia", there is
considerably more light shed on the subject of the blood abilities, "Blood
Form" and "Blood Trait". These two abilities are paramount to WETHER and
WHICH sort of advanced being a BR character may evolve into....
- ----------
, Ben wrote:
>
> > On some of the cards and extras that originally came with the br
boxed set, it described the gorgon and rhoubhe as having a blood ability
called "bloodform". It's not in the rulebook, but I've always assumed that
this blood ability is what makes an awnsheigh/ehrsheigh.
> Ben

Tim Nutting
08-12-1998, 08:02 PM
Mongramen hit on something I've been trying to work out before here on the
list and gotten no answer.

How is an awnshegh created?

2 answers have I seen, but neither agree with each other, and both are
"official"

Atlas of Cerilia: "An awnshegh is any creature imbued with the blood of
Azrai that traps divine essence within itself rather than giving it back to
the land. This process is too much for a mortal frame, and it warps the
body even as it makes the flesh more powerful. These distortions usually
reflect some aspect of the mind inside."

Blood Enemies: Any scion of Azrai with Bloodform.

The Rulebook answer implies that an Awnshegh is created through the
personal choice of the creature, while Blood Enemies implies that the
creation is entirely out of the hands of the scion, utterly and irrevocably
(save to sever the bloodline).

If the statements of the Chamberlain are taken to heart, it is implied that
a character of strong will and good moral character afflicted with Azrai's
blood may be able to resist the urge to succumb to the power, yet if that
statement is false and Blood Enemies is correct, then it is a matter of
100% random chance that the divine power develops a single ability, and
bang, you be an awnshegh.

Thoughts?

Tim Nutting

Tim Nutting
08-12-1998, 08:08 PM
> > On some of the cards and extras that originally came with the br
boxed set, it described the gorgon and rhoubhe as having a blood ability
called "bloodform". It's not in the rulebook, but I've always assumed that
this blood ability is what makes an awnsheigh/ehrsheigh.<

True - but that is the second printing. The first printing, made before BE
was published, does not list that ability on any awnshegh cardsheet.