#WONG HON MING#
01-17-1999, 05:58 AM
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> From: Sindre Berg[SMTP:sindre@vision-computer.no]
> Reply To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Sent: Friday, 15 January, 1999 11:34 PM
> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Loyalty Rules
>
> I've been reading a bit on the loyalty rules and I realised I don't get
> what they wanted ?
> When it said you by having 50% of law (through actual law or soldiers at
> wartime) you can ignore 1 level of loyalty, does that mean the loyalty
> level stays where it is or that it drops but you don't have to face the
> effects ?
>
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It is that you could ignore 1 level of loyalty change. Thus, the loyalty
level in that province did not change.
> ANother thing, if you have 100% you can ignore 2 levels, does
> that mean if you collected severe taxes and someone agitates you still
> don't actually faces any loyalty change (severe -1, agitate -1 100%law
> +2 =0) ?
>
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Yes.
> Because if it is like this then agitate is a lot less powerful
> towards the powerful landed regents...
>
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However, the loyalty change ignored is for the entire domain turn. Thus, if
the priest regent carried out 3 rounds of Agitation for his 3 domain
actions, there would be -3 loyalty levels. And not forgetting, the Priest
regent has a free Agitate action per domain turn.
> Somewhere in the rules it says that the first turn you occopy a province
> it immediately drops to poor and then you add the normal -1 too ?
>
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The way I see is that the normal -1/turn is for subsequent turns.
> Because then you get an immediate rebellion when you try to occupy
> someones province! So how to handle loyalty during or not an occupation
> ???
>
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During the occupation, the occupying units would function as temporary law
holdings (pg 66). Most probably this law holding level would be equal to the
province level and thus the occupying regent could ignore 2 levels of
loyalty changes per domain turn. Though, he would better create his own law
holding and rule it up fast for a more efficient and economical way to
control provinces. :)
Hoped that the above would be of some assistance.
Hon Ming
> From: Sindre Berg[SMTP:sindre@vision-computer.no]
> Reply To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Sent: Friday, 15 January, 1999 11:34 PM
> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Loyalty Rules
>
> I've been reading a bit on the loyalty rules and I realised I don't get
> what they wanted ?
> When it said you by having 50% of law (through actual law or soldiers at
> wartime) you can ignore 1 level of loyalty, does that mean the loyalty
> level stays where it is or that it drops but you don't have to face the
> effects ?
>
- ------------------------
It is that you could ignore 1 level of loyalty change. Thus, the loyalty
level in that province did not change.
> ANother thing, if you have 100% you can ignore 2 levels, does
> that mean if you collected severe taxes and someone agitates you still
> don't actually faces any loyalty change (severe -1, agitate -1 100%law
> +2 =0) ?
>
- -----------------------
Yes.
> Because if it is like this then agitate is a lot less powerful
> towards the powerful landed regents...
>
- ------------------------
However, the loyalty change ignored is for the entire domain turn. Thus, if
the priest regent carried out 3 rounds of Agitation for his 3 domain
actions, there would be -3 loyalty levels. And not forgetting, the Priest
regent has a free Agitate action per domain turn.
> Somewhere in the rules it says that the first turn you occopy a province
> it immediately drops to poor and then you add the normal -1 too ?
>
- --------------------------
The way I see is that the normal -1/turn is for subsequent turns.
> Because then you get an immediate rebellion when you try to occupy
> someones province! So how to handle loyalty during or not an occupation
> ???
>
- -------------------------
During the occupation, the occupying units would function as temporary law
holdings (pg 66). Most probably this law holding level would be equal to the
province level and thus the occupying regent could ignore 2 levels of
loyalty changes per domain turn. Though, he would better create his own law
holding and rule it up fast for a more efficient and economical way to
control provinces. :)
Hoped that the above would be of some assistance.
Hon Ming