Organisations of Anuire

[Raesene Andu]

This is one of the largest sections of the Atlas and took me ages to put together. It is also one of the more complete sections, and the section that probably needs the most checking. This is also the section were people can easily add new material as there are a lot of organisations that need to be done, and it doesn't take long to complete each one. So if you want to help out, but don't have enough time to write up a whole realm description, consider helping out here, as half an hour's work can get something complete. There are plenty of examples within the document to work from, and I have already completed add in all the statistical information.

[RaspK_FOG]

I will see if I can work something on this matter (the funny thing is that this is the kind of work I was going to ask you if we could work on :D).

EDIT: I think there is a problem with the download link...

[Raesene Andu]

Anyone else had trouble downloading the file? I can upload it elsewhere if you have.

[Arjan]

Originally posted by Raesene Andu@Jan 16 2005, 01:40 AM
Anyone else had trouble downloading the file? I can upload it elsewhere if you have.
Downloadlink seems to be working properly...

[Angelbialaska]

Haven't read through all of it. Actually only looked over the first organisations and the organisations present in Brosengae...

I'm not sure why Ghoere should receive any tribute from the Brosen Royal Guild. It seems very unlikely to me. And 10GB is a bit too much in my opinion, I'd see a tribute agreement as being perhaps 1/4 of the income, not 2/3. Squeezing is the easy way to rebellion and assassinations.

[Raesene Andu]

That of couse should be Avanil that recieves the tribute, just fixing that up now. Taking 10 GB still gives just the guild part of Brosengae with a profit of 6.5 GB, and that is before the income from provinces is added in. Of course, I think the BRG probably has more trade routes than listed, so there income would be higher.

As you will see when I post the Avanil description, the PAI guild pays over more gold. I see Avanil keeping EM on a fairly tight leash. If you read the original description of Brosegnae from Ruins of Empire it mentions that the Duchess has opened negotiations with Boeruine to be rid of Avanil's "oppressive domination." This tribute would be the reason why.

Without the tribute of 32 GB from his vassals, Avan is not as powerful as he should be, so I would think carefully before changing this. With her other holdings EM's income after tribute is just over 20 GB, from which she pay the maintenance of a castle, 5 caravals, and a small military, and she is likely to still be left with something around 10 GB a turn as profit, more than enough for most people.

[Angelbialaska]

Having to pay 10 GB for her court, since it's described as being the best in Anuire, that is, that it's better than even the heavy-weighters, means that it leaves her with hardly anything to play around with.

[Osprey]

She can't have a court higher than level 8, which is still one of the best in Anuire. And even that level is only possible with a Court (4) + Palace (4), costing 6 GB per season (since she has no province or holding over level 4, her base court level may not exceed that).

[Lee]

In a message dated 1/15/05 5:19:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET writes:



<< This is also the section were people can easily add new material as there

are a lot of organisations that need to be done, and it doesn`t take long to

complete each one. So if you want to help out, but don`t have enough time to

write up a whole realm description, consider helping out here, as half an hour`s

work can get something complete. There are plenty of examples within the

document to work from, and I have already completed add in all the statistical

information.

>>



Thanks, I think I could scrape up a few ideas, and this is stuff I could use

in my own campaign, too.



Lee.

[RaspK_FOG]

File downloaded (sometimes I just hate Opera...).

[Angelbialaska]

Then it will have to be level 8, since the royal court of Brosengae is one of the most impressive and there&#39;s all the stuff about diplomats wanting to get posted there. Little gets done, but there&#39;s prestige in it.

[The incredible, edible Phil]

There can also be exceptions to the rule like parts of the Secrets books. One of Brosengae&#39;s assets may be that their court can exceed the province level, just that they pay through the teeth to maintain it, despite the strain on the treasury, to keep up appearances. An excellent plot hook would be where the regent might consider dropping it some but the local nobility will certainly cause quite the stir if the duchess so much as breathed a word of any consideration of doing so.

[Raesene Andu]

Yes, as long as the exceptions are well thought out and put in there for a reason, I don&#39;t see any reason why changes can&#39;t be made.

The Spiderfell, for example, is one NPC realms I have significantly altered the normal rules of troop maintenance for, otherwise the Spider wouldn&#39;t have an army and wouldn&#39;t have been able to survive in the heart of the Empire for the past 1,500+ years.

[Thomas_Percy]

The title "Organisations" is a little confusing. I expected something like "Organisations" chapter at FR CS or Lords of Darkness to FR.
The power groups of Brt are not so magical imagination shakers as Zhentarim, Red Wizards of Thay or Shades.

btw. do You notice that all city of Shade story from 3,0-3,5 FR is similiar to a story of Siebharrinn and Sideath province of Tuarhievel?

[Osprey]

The Spiderfell, for example, is one NPC realms I have significantly altered the normal rules of troop maintenance for, otherwise the Spider wouldn&#39;t have an army and wouldn&#39;t have been able to survive in the heart of the Empire for the past 1,500+ years.

I made heavy use of the tribal units BRCS rule to justify a large force of humanoids making a permanent home there. I divided the Spiderfell into two 1/8 provinces, east and west (which incidentally strengthens Caine as a source regent). That creates 32 GB worth of mustering as free units, all of whom obey the Spider&#39;s commands when he calls on them for war. It only gives the Spider 2 GB a season in gross income though, so if he wants to increase his income he must rely on raiding and looting. Regular banditry can thus be a fairly decent supplemental income, which he&#39;ll then use to hire mercenaries for one of his "big raids" which happen every so many years (and ideally bring in even more loot to replenish the depleted treasury).

Of course, here&#39;s an instance where I first adapted my raiding rules (see BRCS forum) to allow fast raids that don&#39;t require a full month of occupation to see a profit. The traditional pillaging requirements effectively trap the Spider and make his supposed history of raids infeasible (because if every regent has 4 war moves to react, they will rarely fail to crush the invaders before any real looting takes place). Every regent expects the Spider to attack their realm sooner or later, and it&#39;s not like the Spider has a pool of human spies and informants keeping him updated on all the surrounding realms (like when a realm&#39;s army is engaged elsewhere and vulnerable to attack).

Another little slice of income might come from a tribute agreement from Caine. Using the two provinces at 1/8, if Caine is the sole source regent then he has 2 level 4 virtual guilds (VG&#39;s). What if there are secret (smuggling) trade routes going to Endier, Ghoere, or Roesone? Each VG could support 2 routes bringing in 2 GB just on that end - that&#39;s 8 GB a season, plus the local income of 5-1/3 GB per season - totalling 13 GB/season&#33; Wherever these trade routes connect, there&#39;s profit on the other end for the smugglers, so that&#39;s sorta&#39; taken care of already. I expect Caine would consider himself lucky to get 3 GB a season (and 2 L8 sources&#33;) out of all of this, while the Spider agrees to leave him unharmed in the forest and gets a fat 10 GB per season in tribute. Goblins could also be running actual guilds (2 x L1 holdings) for a little extra profit, too - with a couple of smuggling routes, that&#39;s another 2 GB a season. 2 L1 Law holdings might also add another 2/3 GB to the income.

Spider&#39;s total income with this scenario: 15 GB/season

What do you think of that, Raesene? Makes a few standing elite goblin/gnoll units a real possibility, especially if his crack troops are military cohorts (1/2 maintenance). At his level, he could maintain 17 GB worth of cohorts - and a few able lieutenants with leadership could also have their own military cohorts, too, meaning ALL of his standing troops (the real veterans of the Spiderfell) could be at 1/2 normal maintenance. And this without bending any rules whatsoever, just using them to their best effect.

I much prefer keeping things within the rules whenever possible, it makes life a lot easier for DM&#39;s, and most importantly players will stay motivated to compete if they believe they&#39;re on a level playing field (as level as it can be against anceint awnsheglien, at least).

Osprey

[Osprey]

There can also be exceptions to the rule like parts of the Secrets books. One of Brosengae&#39;s assets may be that their court can exceed the province level, just that they pay through the teeth to maintain it, despite the strain on the treasury, to keep up appearances. An excellent plot hook would be where the regent might consider dropping it some but the local nobility will certainly cause quite the stir if the duchess so much as breathed a word of any consideration of doing so.

I really don&#39;t see any reason to push Brosengae&#39;s court above level 8 - it IS one of the best in the world at that point. I expect only the Imperial Court (at 10+), and maybe Avan&#39;s, is more impressive, as it should be. I mean, what is EM going to do even with a L8 court? She&#39;ll rarely be able to use all of those court actions (4) in a single month, and the cost/benefit ratio would be blatantly inefficient in a guilder&#39;s eyes. And Erien IS a business woman after all...

[Angelbialaska]

Eriene is also a noble. And Brosengae isn&#39;t a large realm or anything. They use the guild as some way of getting others to look in their direction. Besides there&#39;s a lot to be gained from being quite popular with the diplomats of other realms, who&#39;ll love a posting in Brosengae&#39;s court.

[Angelbialaska]

Life and Protection of Avanalae is listed as giving tribute to Ghoere. Would this not be to Cariele, where LPA is lieutenant and also gives regency?

[Cardinal Malik]

I liked your work up on the orthodox imperial temple. Good work.

[A_dark]

Who invested Jaison Raenech and how? Depending on Osoerde&#39;s story, you might need to make some changes. If for example, the Cuiraecen church in Osoerde was the official state religion, then they should have invested him, but then you cannot really have their regent be opposed to him.

Just 2cents :)

[Raesene Andu]

Originally posted by A_dark@Jan 20 2005, 07:49 PM
Who invested Jaison Raenech and how? Depending on Osoerde&#39;s story, you might need to make some changes. If for example, the Cuiraecen church in Osoerde was the official state religion, then they should have invested him, but then you cannot really have their regent be opposed to him.

Just 2cents :)
The writeup for the One True Church of Vosgaard said that they are allies of Raenech, but that doesn&#39;t mean that they invested him. As Osoerde&#39;s writeup isn&#39;t complete I suggest whoever works on that decides.

The Church of Storm&#39;s Height could have invested him with the realm, as could the IHH. It would depend as to the exact circumstances of his rise to power. He could have arranged things so that it appeared that the Moergan family was dead, and as the Duke Moergan&#39;s faithful advisor he was next in line for the title, so he was invested with the realm on the old duke&#39;s deathbed.

[Raesene Andu]

Originally posted by Angelbialaska@Jan 20 2005, 05:26 AM
Life and Protection of Avanalae is listed as giving tribute to Ghoere. Would this not be to Cariele, where LPA is lieutenant and also gives regency?
The tribute to Ghoere is demanded of them by Baron Tael in return for the right to possess holdings within the border&#39;s of Ghoere. When I post Ghoere&#39;s information, you will see that all temples inside Ghoere are asked to pay tribute.

The LPA supports 5 units of troops within Coeranys and Elinie as part of their arrangement with those nations, but they still have some gold left over if you think they should hand over more in tribute (they make about 7.5 GB in profit each turn).

[The incredible, edible Phil]

The sheer size of the document makes me hesitant in presenting precise corrections. Most notably the instances of the revision to bloodline rules, but here are some glaring errors or omissions:


Church of Storm&#39;s Height says the regent is Wincae Raenech, while later in the description of the NPC the name is Wincae Raehech.
Not to mention his alignment and bloodline level are referred differently (once LE and major 36 while the other CG and major 18).


The Council of Leaders make no mention of Prince Denerik of Mhowe that does have a writeup in RoE as the leader of Mhowe and having cowed most of the council due to the threat of poison. Further in Player Secrets of Baruk-Azhik there is mention of a Dwarf among the council IIRC.


The Fingers of Tollan, which I assume is a "new" regent to represent the Gorgon&#39;s guild holdings description cuts off abruptly before continuing into the important figures section.


Southern Anuire Shipping and Imports: In player secrets of Roesone, Orthien Tane is listed as level 9 and with a bloodline of 16. I don&#39; tknow what is the policy you guys are using in regards to player secrets vs RoE, but one can imagine that the former supercedes the latter due to "most recent printing". In Other assets I would suggest giving Orthien Tane a special espionage action ability where he can perform banditry on target guild trade routes in provinces he holds holdings in.


Spider River Traders: Again the Player&#39;s secrets of Roesone give different history and game statistics for Siele Ghoried (including gender).


The Books of Priestcraft and Magecraft do include descriptions of several temples and wizards already and don&#39;t seem to have been fully used for the description of some of the organizations. I think it would be a good idea to use those books as ressources to help flesh out and ease the transition.

[The incredible, edible Phil]

After reading Serpent Kingdoms for the Forgotten Realms, I&#39;m also compelled in suggesting one make el-hadid a yuan-ti pure blood that serves the Serpent :)

[Raesene Andu]

Church of Storm&#39;s Height says the regent is Wincae Raenech, while later in the description of the NPC the name is Wincae Raehech.
Not to mention his alignment and bloodline level are referred differently (once LE and major 36 while the other CG and major 18).

Now this is actually an interesting one. There was some discussion a while back among various members of the Atlas team as to the relationship before the head of the Church of Storm&#39;s height and Duke Raenech, and we were sort of split with some supporting the idea that he was a relation, while others suggesting that the names were just similar.

I was of the opinion that the sames were too similar to be a conincidence, so when I did up all the holding info and income, etc, I put him down as Wincae Raenech. However, the original description, which I never had time to edit, had him down as Raehech, hence the discrepency there.

I&#39;d be interested to hear other opinions on this, by the way.


The Council of Leaders make no mention of Prince Denerik of Mhowe that does have a writeup in RoE as the leader of Mhowe and having cowed most of the council due to the threat of poison. Further in Player Secrets of Baruk-Azhik there is mention of a Dwarf among the council IIRC.

That description wasn&#39;t completed. I was half-way through writing that up when I posted it here. There are other leaders to add, and I needed to check the information again with all the various sources.


The Fingers of Tollan, which I assume is a "new" regent to represent the Gorgon&#39;s guild holdings description cuts off abruptly before continuing into the important figures section.

Again this is unfinished. I tend to jump around a lot while writing :)
Tollan, by the way, is mentioned in Blood Enemies as a new awnshegh serving the Gorgon as spymaster and treasury. I decided to put him in control of the Gorgon&#39;s guilds. Means more RP for the Gorgon, plus a network of spies to keep an eye on things in his lands.
Note: Changes to his assets might be needed to include a spynetwork in Kal-Saitharak and Fellport at the very least, and maybe in Mur-Kilad and Markazor as well (keep an eye on Gorgon&#39;s vassals).


Southern Anuire Shipping and Imports: In player secrets of Roesone, Orthien Tane is listed as level 9 and with a bloodline of 16. I don&#39; tknow what is the policy you guys are using in regards to player secrets vs RoE, but one can imagine that the former supercedes the latter due to "most recent printing". In Other assets I would suggest giving Orthien Tane a special espionage action ability where he can perform banditry on target guild trade routes in provinces he holds holdings in.

Hmm, I don&#39;t know. A lot of people never liked the Player&#39;s Secrets books for various reasons. In the case of Roesone and the Boxed Set, both were actually printed at around the same time I believe, Roesone was the first PS book and came out almost immediately after the boxed set was released. It is possible that it was based on an earlier draft of the setting and the regent values and even genders (in the case of Siele Ghoried) changed.

What does everyone else think on this? Making Tane level 9, does put him much higher than the other guild regents in the region.

How would you write up this special banditry action? What are the exact rule governing its use?


The Books of Priestcraft and Magecraft do include descriptions of several temples and wizards already and don&#39;t seem to have been fully used for the description of some of the organizations. I think it would be a good idea to use those books as ressources to help flesh out and ease the transition.

Any of the temples of wizard that currently have complete descriptions fall into this category? If so, which ones. I didn&#39;t think to check against the descriptions in the BoP or BoM, although I should point out all that material in the document is only a draft, and can be altered if a significant variation from the original is highlighted.

[Raesene Andu]

Originally posted by The incredible, edible Phil@Jan 21 2005, 05:29 AM
After reading Serpent Kingdoms for the Forgotten Realms, I&#39;m also compelled in suggesting one make el-hadid a yuan-ti pure blood that serves the Serpent :)
I wouldn&#39;t... suggest it that is. Forgotten Realms and Birthright just never seem to mix well.

[irdeggman]

Originally posted by Raesene Andu@Jan 24 2005, 07:25 AM

Church of Storm&#39;s Height says the regent is Wincae Raenech, while later in the description of the NPC the name is Wincae Raehech.
Not to mention his alignment and bloodline level are referred differently (once LE and major 36 while the other CG and major 18).

Now this is actually an interesting one. There was some discussion a while back among various members of the Atlas team as to the relationship before the head of the Church of Storm&#39;s height and Duke Raenech, and we were sort of split with some supporting the idea that he was a relation, while others suggesting that the names were just similar.

I was of the opinion that the sames were too similar to be a conincidence, so when I did up all the holding info and income, etc, I put him down as Wincae Raenech. However, the original description, which I never had time to edit, had him down as Raehech, hence the discrepency there.

I&#39;d be interested to hear other opinions on this, by the way.


I was the one that pointed it out to Ariadne when I glanced over her first write up of the Church of Storm&#39;s Height that the name in the BoP is not the same. It is repeated in the BoP in every line entry as being Raehech. I am of the opinion that the names are just similar. Part of the logic is that some church in Osoerde must be supporting the rightful ruler, at least sublty. If it is not this church then what one will it be?

Making the regent of the church LE is likewise not really a good call (IMO), it is the big "C" afterall- right? So why the lawful part?

In the game I ran I had a PC being a paladin of the CSH and seeking refuge in Roesone due to his outspoken dissent against Jasen. The head of the church asked for a PC (the new regent of Roesone) to keep this in mind and keep the paladin safe from his enemies, without letting him know what was going on.

A little bit much on the subterfuge for a cleric of Cuircean, but the concept fit the situation, IMO. Going the way it is currently done would prevent this from happening.

Cuircean is against oppressing the masses and sticking up for those who can&#39;t stick up for themselves so it makes it highly unlikely, IMO, for a church to openly support a ruler who exists on that policy without working towards removing him in some manner.

There was so little written up on the CSH in the BoP that we have a lot of leeway here for interpretation.

[Angelbialaska]

As far as I remember, then to be priest of big C you need to be non-lawful.

[Raesene Andu]

Yes it was non-lawful. I hadn&#39;t noticed the LE before, which given the size of the total Atlas document (241 pages at the moment) isn&#39;t surprising.

With the Raenech/Raehech matter. If it was an error in RoE, then it could have been carried over into the BoP. The main thing that is that &#39;h&#39; and &#39;n&#39; are very similar looking letters. I&#39;m not fussed either way though, which is why I asked for opinions.

I did note just now that in the BoP it mentions that some of the temple&#39;s follower support William Moergan (about half) so that would cast doubt on their leader being a relation to the duke.

[irdeggman]

Originally posted by Raesene Andu@Jan 24 2005, 08:21 AM
Yes it was non-lawful. I hadn&#39;t noticed the LE before, which given the size of the total Atlas document (241 pages at the moment) isn&#39;t surprising.

With the Raenech/Raehech matter. If it was an error in RoE, then it could have been carried over into the BoP. The main thing that is that &#39;h&#39; and &#39;n&#39; are very similar looking letters. I&#39;m not fussed either way though, which is why I asked for opinions.

I did note just now that in the BoP it mentions that some of the temple&#39;s follower support William Moergan (about half) so that would cast doubt on their leader being a relation to the duke.
Making them different people also helps to explain why a CG (or at least CN) church could exist in the land.

It also helps suppport Ariadne&#39;s writing on the prefect himself:

Storm’s Prefect Wincae Raehech (MAn; Clr5, Cuiraécen; Scion of Brenna, major, 18, CG). Wincae Raehech is a true rebel. Outwardly he supports the ruler of the realm Jaison Raenech, but his true intention is to overthrow his reign and to bring Osoerde’s rightful ruler back to power. The rumours that the church of Belinik has taken root within Osoerde only strengthens his resolve to suffocate the evil in this realm.

This seems to fit the backstory of the land a whole lot better as well as keeping truer to the general concensus of Cuircean&#39;s dogma.


IMO a church will have the same alignment as its prefect. This is a reflection of the majority of the worshippers agreeing with his/her philosophy and the church&#39;s actions (dictated by the prefect which is dictated by his/her alignment). So the CSH should not be a LE church.

[The incredible, edible Phil]

Originally posted by Raesene Andu@Jan 24 2005, 01:25 PM






Church of Storm&#39;s Height says the regent is Wincae Raenech, while later in the description of the NPC the name is Wincae Raehech.
Not to mention his alignment and bloodline level are referred differently (once LE and major 36 while the other CG and major 18).

Now this is actually an interesting one. There was some discussion a while back among various members of the Atlas team as to the relationship before the head of the Church of Storm&#39;s height and Duke Raenech, and we were sort of split with some supporting the idea that he was a relation, while others suggesting that the names were just similar.

I was of the opinion that the sames were too similar to be a conincidence, so when I did up all the holding info and income, etc, I put him down as Wincae Raenech. However, the original description, which I never had time to edit, had him down as Raehech, hence the discrepency there.

I&#39;d be interested to hear other opinions on this, by the way.

I would suggest due to the relationship with the vos church and they not be related. However the stance of the church of storm&#39;s height might be in that they don&#39;t care who reigns necessarily but revel in the battles ahead.



Again this is unfinished. I tend to jump around a lot while writing :)
Tollan, by the way, is mentioned in Blood Enemies as a new awnshegh serving the Gorgon as spymaster and treasury. I decided to put him in control of the Gorgon&#39;s guilds. Means more RP for the Gorgon, plus a network of spies to keep an eye on things in his lands.
Note: Changes to his assets might be needed to include a spynetwork in Kal-Saitharak and Fellport at the very least, and maybe in Mur-Kilad and Markazor as well (keep an eye on Gorgon&#39;s vassals).

A heck of a lot of power to be given from the Gorgon who seems to prefer keeping his underlings very weak and dependant on him.



Hmm, I don&#39;t know. A lot of people never liked the Player&#39;s Secrets books for various reasons. In the case of Roesone and the Boxed Set, both were actually printed at around the same time I believe, Roesone was the first PS book and came out almost immediately after the boxed set was released. It is possible that it was based on an earlier draft of the setting and the regent values and even genders (in the case of Siele Ghoried) changed.

What does everyone else think on this? Making Tane level 9, does put him much higher than the other guild regents in the region.

How would you write up this special banditry action? What are the exact rule governing its use?

Siele ghoried would also benefit from gaining some bloodline and levels from PS Roesone as well so whilel Ortien Tane would be the highest, his level advantage wouldn&#39;t be as great. SASI is a relatively small guild compared to his rivals so would give him a slight edge in that department.

As fo rthe espionage action it would depend on how powerful the atlas team wants it to be and what would they allow for espionage actions. Here are my suggestions:

1) OT may perform an espionage action against any trade route that passes through a province where he has holdings (even if the target guilder doesn&#39;t have a guild in that province). If successful, the trade route generates no income for that turn for the target guilder while Ortien Tane gains the amount the guilder stood to gain.

2) If the atlas team would allow all guilders to perform the above action then I would suggest giving Ortien Tane either a circumstance bonus to the roll or allow synergy from another skill to apply only for him (say warcraft, survival, what have you).




The Books of Priestcraft and Magecraft do include descriptions of several temples and wizards already and don&#39;t seem to have been fully used for the description of some of the organizations. I think it would be a good idea to use those books as ressources to help flesh out and ease the transition.

Any of the temples of wizard that currently have complete descriptions fall into this category? If so, which ones. I didn&#39;t think to check against the descriptions in the BoP or BoM, although I should point out all that material in the document is only a draft, and can be altered if a significant variation from the original is highlighted.

Offhand the Book of Magecraft details the Sword Mage and High Mage Aelies of those that interest us in the topic of Anuire.

The Book of Priestcraft covers all the temple domains for each religion to a certain degree (usually 1-2 paragraphs) with a central focus of 1 domain per faith.

In the case of Avani, the GTA (Khinasi) is the central focus. For our discoure the important part is LPA so here is what is written:

"The Life and Protection of Avanalae is a splinter church of the Ariyan Temple, and despite their distance from one another, the former follows the theological lead of its parent church.
The Ariyan Temple takes a much more beneficient approach in its interpretation of Avani&#39;s word. It&#39;s members believe that Avani is an inherently benevolent goddess. Her word is one of peace and prosperity; to achieve both is to achieve a rich, rewarding life. The Temple realizes that such states are ephemereal; ironally, peace and prosperity often can be achieved only through violence and strife."

"The High Hierophant of the Life and Protection of Avanale makes her home in the city of Ruorven in the Anuirean domain of Coeranus. Despite its frontier location, the temple in Ruorven remains the most important establishment of the Anuirean church of Avani. Most doctrinal dispures within that church are decided there, rather than in the more respendent temple in the City of Anuire. ruorven&#39;s temple maintains contact with its cousins in Ariya through a small fleet of merchant vessels."


Of erik, we are interrested in the Oaken grove of Aeric:

"The Oaken Grove of Aeric in Anuirean lands is part of the greater church in Rjurik lands, but its iedalogy differs somewhat from its parent. Not involved in or concerned with the religious differences between the two churches in the Rjurik Highlands, the Oaken Grove in Dhoesone, Mhoried, and Cariele is most concerned with the preservation of wilderness and resources in those Anuirean lands. In Cariele, they are fighting a losing battle against the rapacity of the guilds, but their views are more popular in Mhoried and Dhoesone. They are much like the Oaken Grove in Rjurik lands in that they willingly trade what they gather from the forest with merchants from other domains; despite this, they are pasionate in their protection of the wilderness and are careful to harvest only what the land can bear."

"The largest temple holding of the Oaken Grove of Erik is in the coastal province of Yvarre in Rjuvik. High Druid Gunther Brandt (MBR, PR10, Erikl; Re, major, 32, CG), however, lives in Riveside, in Dhoesone."


Of Haelyn, there is too much information to post here regarding his temples and the like. The information covers pages 17-24 inclusively.

Of Belenik&#39;s churches, what is written in the document presented by raesene Andu seems accurate.

The section on Nesirie covers the ETN, PSN&#39; and WB but in little detail.

The section on Sera has 2 whole paragraphs for both churches in Anuire.

The section on Cuiraécen is almost as somplete as that of Haelyn, focusing primarily on the MOC.

Éloéle section has 1 paragraph regarding the EOM.

The Kriesha section has nothing of interest unless one wants to create new domains or try to include her clergy in the vos of the five peaks, vos of mieres and the church in Osoerde.

The Laerme section is also light on information but does include a shrine in the ICofA (no temple regent) and a bardic college in aerenwe.

Ruornil&#39;s section is again light on information but does hint that Suris Enlien has contact with Ruornil&#39;s avatar and have a secret motive in its location (near the battle of Mount Deismaar) and makes mention of an order of Knights in Medoere.


Later, on page 67, the book goes on to detail the IHH and its goals more thoroughly.

[Raesene Andu]

A heck of a lot of power to be given from the Gorgon who seems to prefer keeping his underlings very weak and dependant on him.

Although he has a fairly powerful domain, almost all of his income is given over to the Gorgon, leaving him about 4 GB I believe. If you add in the maintence of 2-4 spy networks as well, then he has no GB income at all, and any actions he conducts he must ask Raesene for gold, which makes him very dependant on the his master.

I&#39;ve updated the other information from your post (Siele Ghoried, Orthan Tane, and the various temples of Anuire).

[The incredible, edible Phil]

Another possibility for Ortien Tane&#39;s "banditry" would be a special contest trade route action action where if he succeeds by say more than 5, he gains the amoun tthe trade route would have produced as well as the successfully contest the trade route.