Re:Rules Interpretation/Hands f

[Matthew M. Colville]

> At 05:15 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Robin Cantrin(rcantin@oricom.ca)wrote:
>
>About the alignment of paladins, I'm a little sceptical here. Lawful
good?
>The rules state that a paladin can be of different religions: Haelyn,
>Cuira=E9cen, Nesirie, Avani. Haelyn,s in the LG line all right, but
Cuira=E9cen
>tends toward CG, Nesirie NG and Avani LN. How do you resolve this
apparent
>contradiction? Don't you feel paladins must be =ABin tune=BB with their
diety
>and cult?

Dragon Magazine published an article a long time ago (which I have
here) called A Plethora Of Paladins. It detailed different Paladin
Classes for every alignment. Probably my favorite Dragon article ever.=20
Mind you, this is before the 2nd Edition, so these aren't wimpy Paladin
'Kits,' these are actual Paladin classes with their own special
abilities, restrictions, and alignments. They fit quite well into
Birthright, I might add.

- --=20
-Matthew

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[Jaanus Lillenberg]

Hello there
>
Robin wrote:
> About paladins and rager RP collection, Mike Carscadden said:
>
> >For this ruling I would leave it to the DM's discretion but I would say
> >the character would have to choose 1 ie a Palidin shouldn't collect full
> >regency for both Law, Temple, and Province holdings its just too much.
> >The Locust
>
> I feel it's a matter of campaign flavor here. Characters who control lots
> of holdings - either plenty of the same type or some of several types, as
> the ranger and paladin - will have their hands full dealing with many
> emergencies and gather lots of information, so will tend to spend these
> vast amounts of RPs easely.
>
> So I don't object to one player having vast holdings, but he'll have to
> expect to be a very busy regent. Right now I'm playing in two games, one
> with a small domain (Ilien) and one with a large one (Dhoesone). I often
> have a lot more latitude with Ilien than in the north, since Fhiele
> Dhoesone must constantly spend plenty of RPs just to respond to threats
> (when she's not pregnant - but that's a story for another day).

I fully agree with you Robin. Even more. Think about paladin.
In my campaigns at least a paladin MUST be lawful good. But lawful good
is NOT going to wide his territories and other holdings for profit.
Lawful good directs all the power for his people and to keep all bad
guys under his thumb. Being watchdog of society like paladin is to be
just takes more RP I think and thus for paladin gaining more RPs
is very OK for me.

Sincerely yours
Jaanus Lillenberg
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jaanusl@postimees.ee

[rcantin@oricom.ca (Robin]

Gosh, the way the answers come back, this is almost like IRC...

=46rom Jaanus Lillenberg:

(I won't re-post my own explanation here, you all have it already, right?).

>I fully agree with you Robin. Even more. Think about paladin.
>In my campaigns at least a paladin MUST be lawful good. But lawful good
>is NOT going to wide his territories and other holdings for profit.
>Lawful good directs all the power for his people and to keep all bad
>guys under his thumb. Being watchdog of society like paladin is to be
>just takes more RP I think and thus for paladin gaining more RPs
>is very OK for me.

Ah, good point about the nature of paladins in Birthright. BTW, I'm not
aware of any paladin regent in published Birthright products. Know of any?

About the alignment of paladins, I'm a little sceptical here. Lawful good?
The rules state that a paladin can be of different religions: Haelyn,
Cuira=E9cen, Nesirie, Avani. Haelyn,s in the LG line all right, but Cuira=E9=
cen
tends toward CG, Nesirie NG and Avani LN. How do you resolve this apparent
contradiction? Don't you feel paladins must be =ABin tune=BB with their diet=
y
and cult?

BTW, I notice your Email address is jaanusl@postimees.ee; for the sake of
curiosity, where are you writing from?

Robin

[Jonathan Picklesimer]

On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Robin Cantin wrote:

>=20
> Ah, good point about the nature of paladins in Birthright. BTW, I'm not
> aware of any paladin regent in published Birthright products. Know of any=
?
>=20

Check out the info in Cities of the Sun. There is a realm there that=20
must be ruled by Paladins.

>=20
> About the alignment of paladins, I'm a little sceptical here. Lawful good=
?
> The rules state that a paladin can be of different religions: Haelyn,
> Cuira=E9cen, Nesirie, Avani. Haelyn,s in the LG line all right, but Cuira=
=E9cen
> tends toward CG, Nesirie NG and Avani LN. How do you resolve this apparen=
t
> contradiction? Don't you feel paladins must be =ABin tune=BB with their d=
iety
> and cult?
>

I feel that the LG thing is imperitave. The paladin must be L when it=20
comes to his diety. Now if that diety goes around bending the rules,=20
that doesn't grant the paladin the right to do the same when it comes to=20
his religious duties, IMHO.

jsp

[Undertaker]

At 05:15 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Robin Cantrin(rcantin@oricom.ca)wrote:
>
>About the alignment of paladins, I'm a little sceptical here. Lawful good?
>The rules state that a paladin can be of different religions: Haelyn,
>Cuira=E9cen, Nesirie, Avani. Haelyn,s in the LG line all right, but=
Cuira=E9cen
>tends toward CG, Nesirie NG and Avani LN. How do you resolve this apparent
>contradiction? Don't you feel paladins must be =ABin tune=BB with their=
diety
>and cult?
>

In fact under each diety that allows Paladins they have already set the
rules for their alignments, and ablities, in order to make them match their
gods.

Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
RL Homepage: http://www.metrolink.net/~veleda/sepulcher.html=20

[Matthew M. Colville]

>Matthew M. Colville wrote:
>>
>> > At 05:15 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Robin Cantrin(rcantin@oricom.ca)wrote:
>> > Don't you feel paladins must be =ABin tune=BB with their
>> >diety and cult?
>>
>> Dragon Magazine published an article a long time ago (which I hav=
e
>> here) called A Plethora Of Paladins. It detailed different Paladin
>> Classes for every alignment. Probably my favorite Dragon article ever.
>> Mind you, this is before the 2nd Edition, so these aren't wimpy Paladin
>> 'Kits,' these are actual Paladin classes with their own special
>> abilities, restrictions, and alignments. They fit quite well into
>> Birthright, I might add.
>
>Could you tell us which Dragon it's in?
>
>Bruce

Issue 106, it came out in 1986.

[Bruce Taylor]

Matthew M. Colville wrote:
>
> > At 05:15 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Robin Cantrin(rcantin@oricom.ca)wrote:
> > Don't you feel paladins must be «in tune» with their
> >diety and cult?
>
> Dragon Magazine published an article a long time ago (which I have
> here) called A Plethora Of Paladins. It detailed different Paladin
> Classes for every alignment. Probably my favorite Dragon article ever.
> Mind you, this is before the 2nd Edition, so these aren't wimpy Paladin
> 'Kits,' these are actual Paladin classes with their own special
> abilities, restrictions, and alignments. They fit quite well into
> Birthright, I might add.

Could you tell us which Dragon it's in?

Bruce