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03-06-2003, 08:05 PM #11
At 09:24 AM 3/6/2003 +0100, Raesene Andu wrote:
>This section of the rules goes some way to explaining the info from Blood
>Enemies where several soon-to-be-awnsheghlien have attacked blooded scions
>and thus became blooded themselves.
When it comes to those creatures and characters who were commoners and
gained a bloodline after slaying a scion I would like for there to be some
sort of game mechanical explanation. I suppose this might have something
to do with the way bloodtheft works in the original materials or in the 3e
BRCS since neither really work very well IMO. The actual numbers in the
original system don`t make much sense, and the way bloodline gets shot out
of a scion in the form of RP in the BRCS in a sort of mini-Deismaar strikes
me as not being the way to go.
The "RP explosion" was done in order to accommodate those few awnsheghlien
who were unblooded creatures and got a bloodline after slaying a
scion. That happens so seldom, however, that I don`t know if it needs to
be possible every time a scion is killed by being stabbed through the
heart. There are several ancillary effects to that kind of rule. First of
all, it makes me wonder how a scion could reach the age of 25. While
gaining a bloodline is not assured it would make killing a scion something
of a lottery ticket for commoners. While that`s always been the case for
scions killing other scions, there are few enough of them and they are
spread out around Cerilia, they are less likely to run across one
another. For every scion there are 999 commoners (more or less) and if
commoners can perform bloodtheft then a scion would have to feel the same
concern for his safety amongst all people (not to mention wild boars,
wolves or just about any creature) that he would feel in the presence of
other characters with a bloodline.
Those few occasions in which a bloodline of Azrai appeared after an act of
"bloodtheft" occurred could, in fact, be explained as simply the manner in
which the Land`s Choice happens for Azrai`s bloodline. After all, why must
the LC be benevolent, and what better way to "earn" a corrupted bloodline
than by killing a scion? The Land`s Choice apparently does not occur
unless a bloodline dies out, and the "new" bloodline need not necessarily
be that of the one that has ended. The both occur rarely enough that one
could just use a similar method to explain how they work.
So if there was some sort of system for describing how the Land`s Choice
occurs it could account for those occasions when Azrai`s bloodline has
"infected" a commoner. Of course, that means coming up with some sort of
mechanic for that....
Gary
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03-06-2003, 08:05 PM #12
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From: "Gary" <geeman@SOFTHOME.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:00 PM
> While gaining a bloodline is not assured it would make killing a
> scion something of a lottery ticket [...].
This has always bothered me. As a consequence, I have only allowed
bloodtheft when fighting for the realm or family. Duels of honor, fights
for the realm, battles, all can be occasions of bloodtheft. Random abushes,
sneak attacks, and assasination attempts all aimed at stealing blood would
yield nothing. Its the connection between ruler and realm that controls the
blood, even when the realm is nothing more than the family (dynasty).
Kenneth Gauck
kgauck@mchsi.com
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03-06-2003, 09:53 PM #13
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Originally posted by ConjurerDragon
Yes, I know. However I was referring to the text of the 2E Birthright
rulebook, by which non-blooded people can´t simply stab a scion through
the heart and become a scion themselves. Bloodtheft of non-blooded on
scions should be ,if allowed at all, extre mely rare and not just as
likely as a scion killing a scion with the same consequences (that was
in the example someone else wrote add the victims bloodline modifier to
you, right?).
Well, according to the BRCS, a commoner can become a scion by being present for usurpation. In my system, the common has to commit the bloodtheft personally, performing a coup de grace attack against the scion. Due to the balance issues (in favor of the scion, see my Feedback thread), a commoner defeating a scion will be rare.
The BRCS draft 0.0 had at least the non-blooded make a characterlevel
check before being allowed to gain a bloodline.
And if the word spread that everyone could have his share of divine
power simply by killing a scion, not by "receiving the right to rule
from the gods"... 95% of the population could dream of becoming blooded
by hunting the other 5% ;-)
I walk this fine thread...
Mourn
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