Concept of Diesmer and the Bloo

[Kyle Foster]

Actually alot of the Birthright world reminds a great deal of Eddings
works. In some ways the concept of true wizards mirrors the "will and
the way" doctrine as told by Bellgeath(sp). THe breakdown of races is
also a little Eddings like in that each race seems to lend itself to
certian classes, ( but that's true of most worlds I guess).

Excellent work by both parties on this concept of Azari and Diesmer, it
really makes me sad that I never thought of some of those things myself.

Kyle
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"What's so amazing about really deep thoughts?" - Tori Amos, "Silent
All These Years"

[Kyle Foster]

I like the thought of the lost being trapped. I combined that with one
of the adventures in LOHK (the one with the dread) to provide the grand
backdrop for my game. Thought to be honest what inpired me to the idea
was playing Myth of the Fallen Lords and gettin my head handed to me by
the Fallen Lords. I thought it would make a cool plot for Birthright
and that it fit well with the concept of the lost.

Though related to this subject doesn't CoS say that one of the lost is
running around out there free already? And does anyone else think that
the Magian could be old Atar himself? No one really knows where he came
from or how he got hs bloodline, and after reading the stuff in the book
of Priestcraft that is how my thinking went.

Kyle
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"What's so amazing about really deep thoughts?" - Tori Amos, "Silent
All These Years"

[David Sean Brown]

> Another Belgariad similarity is the idea of the Imprisonment spell (8th
> level wizard - its a 1st edition carryover) that traps its victim deep in
> the surface of the earth, very similar to what Belgarath did to the
> Apostate. (is that the right name?)

Zedar the Apostate you got it :)

My answer to what happend to the Lost
> is just that, most were captured by an Imprisonment spell and exist in
> stasis till this very day, awaiting someone foolish enough to release them
> upon the world once more.

Hey, I like this...gives a good reason why some (all? :) of them can /have
come back ...I may have to use this *grin* *shameless plaigerism*

Sean

[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Kyle Foster wrote:

> Though related to this subject doesn't CoS say that one of the lost is
> running around out there free already? And does anyone else think that
> the Magian could be old Atar himself? No one really knows where he came
> from or how he got hs bloodline, and after reading the stuff in the book
> of Priestcraft that is how my thinking went.

Or the Raven. He's supposedly a spirit of some kind out of the Shadow
World that took over the body of the former regent then said regent was
visiting the Shadow World.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[MANTA]

My thoughts precisely.Couldn´t stop reading.
MANTA

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[Tim Nutting]

Don't know about the Magian, but the Lost in CoS is El-Seighul, lord of the
Ghouls. He's not really free.... ummm..... hehehe.... just writing that
clicked an idea in my head. Check out my post on Sorcerers today!
Everyone let me know what you think please!

Anyway... El-Seighul is not really "free". He is the "Regent" of the Black
Spear Tribes (MKh; W19; unknown bloodline; LE) and his limitations are
described on page 31. This is one of those things that should NOT be
revealed to players and a good reason to hand out the "limited"
descriptions as proposed by others on the list. (sorry don't remember who)

Later all

Tim Nutting

[Gary V. Foss]

Mark A Vandermeulen wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Kyle Foster wrote:
>
> > Though related to this subject doesn't CoS say that one of the lost is
> > running around out there free already? And does anyone else think that
> > the Magian could be old Atar himself? No one really knows where he came
> > from or how he got hs bloodline, and after reading the stuff in the book
> > of Priestcraft that is how my thinking went.
>
> Or the Raven. He's supposedly a spirit of some kind out of the Shadow
> World that took over the body of the former regent then said regent was
> visiting the Shadow World.

Here's a spooky idea that might scare the bejeebies out of players in a campaign
that I might just use in my own.... What if the spirit that took over the body of
Lenski is the undead ghost of Azrai? You know, dead but undead the way Orcus came
back in Dead Gods as a weakened but still monsterous creature.

What do you guys think?

- -Gary

[Kyle Foster]

You know I just thought of something about the Raven. He does call
himself the "Son of Azari" couldn't Atar claim that title as his first
human follower. It would also explain the Ravens magic. Drats, now
I've got to figure out a new background for the Magian

Kyle
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"What's so amazing about really deep thoughts?" - Tori Amos, "Silent
All These Years"

[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Gary V. Foss wrote:

> Here's a spooky idea that might scare the bejeebies out of players in a campaign
> that I might just use in my own.... What if the spirit that took over the body of
> Lenski is the undead ghost of Azrai? You know, dead but undead the way Orcus came
> back in Dead Gods as a weakened but still monsterous creature.

My personal cosmology is that Azrai is dead. But in the last split second
before his death he realized the extent to which the other god were
willing to go to defeat him, and he managed to "throw" a small piece of
his "soul" into the Shadow World--which became the Cold Rider. The Cold
Rider has subsequently discovered that, if he can gather up the disparate
parts of his body, he can raise himself up as an UNDEAD god. So he's in
search of his body and sufficient magic to raise himself up again.

I don't know anything about Orcus and all that, but the idea sounds at
least vaguely similar.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu