Drow?

[James Ruhland]

> but not enforced by DMs (elves- everybody's favorite PC ya know).
>
Yah know, in The Dragon there was for several years an add for a game
(which name slips my mind right now) with a big, ugly looking critter and
the caption:

"No Elves. . ."

My thought at the time was "why would anyone want to play in a fantasy
game with no elves?????" . . .I'm begining to see the point. . .

(Porphyrogenetus; who has probably played 10 times more Elven characters
than all other races put together in is gaming "career", but is
reconsidering.)

[KirbyRanma]

"(elves- everybody's favorite PC ya know)"

"My thought at the time was "why would anyone want to play in a fantasy game
with no elves?????" . . .I'm begining to see the point. . ."

"(Porphyrogenetus; who has probably played 10 times more Elven characters than
all other races put together in is gaming "career", but is reconsidering.)"

For my two cents worth, I usually play humans and sometimes it's because
I'm the only one or one of two. In Birthright, this is the first time we've
had so many humans, but what is funny, we have a player who doesn't play
humans. She refuses to do so and when I ask she just says "I don't play
humans!" She's pretty brutal (females are like that :-) so I tend to leave it
at that. She's a half-elf in BR.

Take care all,
Kirby

"I always wanted to be somebody. I realize now that I should have been more
specific."
- --Lily Tomlin

[DKEvermore]

In a message dated 98-04-09 12:50:39 EDT, you write:

> If we have to have drow/shadow elves, don't create a new race, just add on
> what we have about the Tuar Annwn elves. And there is NO need that the
"dark
> evles" would be generally evil, just different, as there are already alot
of
> those evil races as the humans.
>
I wouldn't think that adding such a race would be something you'd *have* to
do, just if you want to. My Shadow Elves as written aren't evil, but rather
CN. This is due to the warping their mind has undergone. I have created a
careful balance in this way: for each extra "advantage" an elf might have,
they suffer a mental problem or derangement of equal magnitude. The greatest
among them have many powers, but tend to be.... unpredictable.

Furthermore, they are called Shadow Elves not due to their coloring (they are
quite pale) but rather due to the fact that after they went underground, they
used their great magic to carve out pockets for cities. These "pockets"
existed half in Cerilia and half in the Shadow World, and thus went undetected
for centuries.

But this is only an element I decided to add to my world to produce a specific
type of adventure material for a while. In general, you might find no reason
at all to add to the elven population in Cerilia at all.

later!
DKE

[Ryan B. Caveney]

On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, DKEvermore wrote:

> My Shadow Elves as written aren't evil, but rather CN.
> This is due to the warping their mind has undergone.

My point was this: the Sidhelien are already largely CN.
This is due to having a culture that places a high value on individuality,
and doing whatever seems best at the time, regardless of what anyone else
(particularly members of other species) may think.

- --Ryan

[James Ruhland]

>
> My point was this: the Sidhelien are already largely CN.
>
CN is usually, in official/semi-official alignment descriptions considered
either:

1) Amoral
or
2) Crazy
>
> This is due to having a culture that places a high value on
individuality,
> and doing whatever seems best at the time, regardless of what anyone else
> (particularly members of other species) may think.
>
3) classic narssicism (described above; too bad I can't spell "narcissism"
today. . .sigh)

[Mauricio Muñoz Lorenzo]

Tim Nutting escribió:

> Tuar Annwn?
>

A elves land of shadows

> Is this in Vosgaard?

yes

>
>
> Tim Nutting
> ************************************************** *************************
> >

[veryfastperson@juno.com]

>I agree, the dark elves presented in the monstrous compendium (and
>thrashed
>out in FR) are fundamentally linked to Lolth (Lloth). This is not
>possible
>in the BR campaign as the elves of any origin have no gods. Therefore
>I
>consider what I call "Shadow Elves" (sorry to TSR for any copyright
>violation with respect to the same named race in the Mystara setting)
>as a
>offshoot of the elves who were first corrupted by Azrai and taught
>evil
>magic. They followed him bellow the ground into eternal darkness and
>learnt
>the abilities that are common to drow. These then become the alven
>equivalent of the Fallen only on an entire race level (given it would
>have
>been much easier to train them in magic due to the elves natural
>aptitude
>towards magic in the first place.

here's a crazy idea about drow (i know this has been discussed and beaten
over the head, but i just thought of this). Who's to say there aren't
elves living under the surface.
Now, the easiest way to discern a drow, from a surface elf, is the fact
that he is black skinned, and has white hair. But what if, by chance,
some of the elves of cerilia /did/ run underground, but their appearance
never changed! They look exactly the same as surface elves, and there is
no way to tell the difference. thus, the surface elves could still be
mortal enemies with these "drow", but would have a hard time telling the
difference :)
(well, would make for some real fun to throw at PC's when espionage came
around:)

Well, just a couple logs to throw on the fire, enjoy :)

Erik


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