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02-12-1999, 03:02 AM #1Craig GreesonGuest
Wardings/The Sword Mage/Sou
Muaadeeb mentions the Sword Mage not having a level 5 source. I've always
thought he was one of the most intriguing characters in BR and would love
to play him (or her?) in a PBeM. I always decide not to because the lack
of a level 5 source means no Death Plague, Mass Destruction, Raze,
Transport, or Warding spells. These, IMO, are pretty much the
bread-and-butter of a major evil wizard. Of course, if the Sword Mage had
a level 5 source, Ghoere might suddenly look awfully dangerous.....
On the subject of source levels, I'm curious if many DMs adjust the source
potential of the ancient forest sources in Anuire? IMO, the following
areas all are ancient forest and should have a source potential of 9 less
the effects of non-elven civilization:
Spiderfell
Erebannien (at least within Aerenwe)
Tuarhievel
Sielwode
I've also always found the current effective source levels of the elven
realms in Anuire/Khinasi to be troubling. Why does the presence of elven
civilization in Tuarhievel, the Sielwode, Innishiere, and Rhuannoch effect
the level of their sources? The argument could be made that the intrusion
of humans in Tuarhievel and Rhuannoch corrupts the flow of mebhaighl to an
extent, but the Sielwode and Innishiere are supposed to be completely
devoid of all humans, right?
Regards
Craig
Muaadeeb@aol.com wrote:
> Which requires the same things. And only elves seems to have enough of
> both. I have seen an elven nation destroy a human nation within two
> actions. Makes me wonder how in hells name the elves were ever defeated!
>
> (Besides, any mage I currently DM on the PBEM is of high enough level to
> cast the spell, has got enough sources to cast the thing and also the
> backing of an army -that is Erik Danig, the Fae, Rhuobhe, Bacaele (he
> will have it anyway)-. Seems not to be that rare, now does it?)
>
> Pieter Sleijpen
> Pieter Sleijpen
> >>
>
> Try looking at the Sword Mage and others.....a 5 is pretty impressive...;-)
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02-12-1999, 03:15 AM #2Muaadeeb@aol.coGuest
Wardings/The Sword Mage/Sou
In a message dated 2/11/99 7:10:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
cgreeson@ccipost.net writes:
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02-12-1999, 03:44 AM #3MemnochGuest
Wardings/The Sword Mage/Sou
Well, it is my sincere belief that the Elven Domains in Anuire have been
screwed by bad editing, however, Due to the Sielwode and Tuarhievel's
proximity to The Gorgon, it can be rationalized that due to one or two of
his past rampages that were eventually beaten down, that he destroyed much
of the forest and mebhaighl that goes along with it. And due to this, the
land won't heal on it's own. But it can be repaired.
At least that is how it has been generally played since I started playing in
PBEMs
Memnoch
- -----Original Message-----
From: Craig Greeson
To: birthright@MPGN.COM
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Re: Wardings/The Sword Mage/Source Levels
|Muaadeeb mentions the Sword Mage not having a level 5 source. I've always
|thought he was one of the most intriguing characters in BR and would love
|to play him (or her?) in a PBeM. I always decide not to because the lack
|of a level 5 source means no Death Plague, Mass Destruction, Raze,
|Transport, or Warding spells. These, IMO, are pretty much the
|bread-and-butter of a major evil wizard. Of course, if the Sword Mage had
|a level 5 source, Ghoere might suddenly look awfully dangerous.....
|
|On the subject of source levels, I'm curious if many DMs adjust the source
|potential of the ancient forest sources in Anuire? IMO, the following
|areas all are ancient forest and should have a source potential of 9 less
|the effects of non-elven civilization:
|Spiderfell
|Erebannien (at least within Aerenwe)
|Tuarhievel
|Sielwode
|
|I've also always found the current effective source levels of the elven
|realms in Anuire/Khinasi to be troubling. Why does the presence of elven
|civilization in Tuarhievel, the Sielwode, Innishiere, and Rhuannoch effect
|the level of their sources? The argument could be made that the intrusion
|of humans in Tuarhievel and Rhuannoch corrupts the flow of mebhaighl to an
|extent, but the Sielwode and Innishiere are supposed to be completely
|devoid of all humans, right?
|
|Regards
|Craig
|
|Muaadeeb@aol.com wrote:
|
|> Which requires the same things. And only elves seems to have enough of
|> both. I have seen an elven nation destroy a human nation within two
|> actions. Makes me wonder how in hells name the elves were ever defeated!
|>
|> (Besides, any mage I currently DM on the PBEM is of high enough level to
|> cast the spell, has got enough sources to cast the thing and also the
|> backing of an army -that is Erik Danig, the Fae, Rhuobhe, Bacaele (he
|> will have it anyway)-. Seems not to be that rare, now does it?)
|>
|> Pieter Sleijpen
|> Pieter Sleijpen
|> >>
|>
|> Try looking at the Sword Mage and others.....a 5 is pretty
impressive...;-)
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> On the subject of source levels, I'm curious if many DMs adjust the source
> potential of the ancient forest sources in Anuire? IMO, the following
> areas all are ancient forest and should have a source potential of 9 less
> the effects of non-elven civilization:
> Spiderfell
> Erebannien (at least within Aerenwe)
> Tuarhievel
> Sielwode
I've been toyin with that idea for a while, but you've let me make up my
mind: I'm gonna do it. Thanks.
> I've also always found the current effective source levels of the elven
> realms in Anuire/Khinasi to be troubling. Why does the presence of elven
> civilization in Tuarhievel, the Sielwode, Innishiere, and Rhuannoch effect
> the level of their sources? The argument could be made that the intrusion
> of humans in Tuarhievel and Rhuannoch corrupts the flow of mebhaighl to an
> extent, but the Sielwode and Innishiere are supposed to be completely
> devoid of all humans, right?
IMC, elves _do_ reduce the magic rating of the forests they populate, but
only by 1 level for each 2 levels of province rating (round fractions up).
Thus, a light forest populated by elves with a province rating of 6 has a
magic rating of 4 (for it has a magic potential of 7). As far as I can
see, this is also the case on the maps of Anuire and Khinasi.
- the Falcon
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02-12-1999, 04:39 PM #5Pieter A de JongGuest
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Craig Greeson wrote:
>
> Muaadeeb mentions the Sword Mage not having a level 5 source. I've always
> thought he was one of the most intriguing characters in BR and would love
> to play him (or her?) in a PBeM. I always decide not to because the lack
> of a level 5 source means no Death Plague, Mass Destruction, Raze,
> Transport, or Warding spells. These, IMO, are pretty much the
> bread-and-butter of a major evil wizard. Of course, if the Sword Mage had
> a level 5 source, Ghoere might suddenly look awfully dangerous.....
>
Yes, Ghoere would be scary if the Sword Mage had a decent set of
sources.
If you want him to be scary in your game, I might suggest giving him a
large
source or two in the Spiderfell, weakening Khaine.
> On the subject of source levels, I'm curious if many DMs adjust the source
> potential of the ancient forest sources in Anuire? IMO, the following
> areas all are ancient forest and should have a source potential of 9 less
> the effects of non-elven civilization:
> Spiderfell
> Erebannien (at least within Aerenwe)
> Tuarhievel
> Sielwode
Basically all anuirean forest are "Ancient Forest". The continent was
once
almost completely forested, similar to the eastern seaboard of North
America,
The only exceptions being the mountain chains, the northern tundra in
Vosgaard, and the sourthern desert/plains in Khinasi. The humans came
and
deforested large areas, including most of anuire. This means that just
about
every forest on the continent is a remainder of the primeval elven
tended forest.
> I've also always found the current effective source levels of the elven
> realms in Anuire/Khinasi to be troubling. Why does the presence of elven
> civilization in Tuarhievel, the Sielwode, Innishiere, and Rhuannoch effect
> the level of their sources? The argument could be made that the intrusion
> of humans in Tuarhievel and Rhuannoch corrupts the flow of mebhaighl to an
> extent, but the Sielwode and Innishiere are supposed to be completely
> devoid of all humans, right?
I always treated this as a mistake by whoever made the map. All elven
provinces
have source level limits as established by their terrain types.
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Pieter A de Jong
Graduate Mechanical Engineering Student
University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
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02-15-1999, 07:36 PM #6Mark A VandermeulenGuest
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, the Falcon wrote:
> IMC, elves _do_ reduce the magic rating of the forests they populate, but
> only by 1 level for each 2 levels of province rating (round fractions up).
> Thus, a light forest populated by elves with a province rating of 6 has a
> magic rating of 4 (for it has a magic potential of 7). As far as I can
> see, this is also the case on the maps of Anuire and Khinasi.
I've always sort of that that perhaps it is the GUILD levels that caused
the decrease in Elven lands. If they have built human-style guilds and are
using them to raise GB, then that sort of negated their ability to use the
land as lightly. No big difference in mechanics, I guess, but the concept
seemed to fit.
Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu
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> > IMC, elves _do_ reduce the magic rating of the forests they populate, but
> > only by 1 level for each 2 levels of province rating (round fractions up).
> > Thus, a light forest populated by elves with a province rating of 6 has a
> > magic rating of 4 (for it has a magic potential of 7). As far as I can
> > see, this is also the case on the maps of Anuire and Khinasi.
>
> I've always sort of that that perhaps it is the GUILD levels that caused
> the decrease in Elven lands. If they have built human-style guilds and are
> using them to raise GB, then that sort of negated their ability to use the
> land as lightly. No big difference in mechanics, I guess, but the concept
> seemed to fit.
Well, I've also got this home rule in addition to the one I mentioned
above, that if an elven province does not contain any guild holdings
whatsoever it retains its maximum magic potential. Note that temples
aren't the question here, since IMC you can't have temple holdings in
elven provinces anyways (the local populace won't support them).
- the Falcon
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