Shield of Halaia

[Solmyr]

>I was just thinking about it, this was my idea:
>She is a temporarily fallen paladin, to regain her status she has to
>succesfully lead the temple even without RP and magic for several years.
>
A possibility, but her stats (eg Charisma 13) are not enough for having been
a paladin in the first place...

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Aleksei Andrievski
aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star
aka Azure Star Dragon
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[Solmyr]

>Possibly that it is a temporary situation, representing a domain in
>transition of the death opf the proper regent. Perhaps the fighter was the
>only blooded lieutenant, and she holds the temple until a blooded priest
can
>be vetted.
>
Yes, but she is mentioned as having held the temple for 12 years. Couldn't
they find a single blooded priest in all that time???

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Aleksei Andrievski
aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star
aka Azure Star Dragon
solmyr@kolumbus.fi
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html

[Jim Cooper]

Kenneth Gauck wrote:
>
> IMO, adventure actions are insufficent when faced with a well organized (lots of RP's) opponant. Using agitate as an example, the fighter-regent of the SoH could go from town to town, looking like the examplar of knighthood, giving stirring orations, and meeting important people in the various communities.<

IMHO, this is exactly the kind of action that *generates* RPs for a
ruler - by personal action rather than commanding & overseeing things
high up in their 'ivory towers'. Precedent has already been set in the
LotHK supp, whereby several adventures allotted bonus RPs to successful
completion of an adventure as a reward for good role-playing. IMO, this
is exactly what Birthright is about.

>However, that would be on the level of an agitate action with no RP's in support. There is no reason, an opponant could not use RP's against you, so that before you arrived, or after you left, rumors, allegations, and hostile orations and sermons would be given reducing the likelihood that your action would succeed.<

I disagree regarding the first statement, for the very reason explained
above. But, yes, you are correct with the second statement; however, as
the DM, I would always favour the regent who actually personally oversaw
their actions to the regent who just uses his influence through
intermediaries. Because of this, over and above the bonus RPs I would
give the 'hands on' regent, I would modify the success roll further in
favour of the same person (for instance, the adjustments suggested in
the Diplomacy action would be appropriate).

Note that I would consider this a valid way for unblooded rulers to be
regents as well, as I consider that the RPs are not actually being
*collected* and *stored* by the common person, but that the RPs are
immediately being used in the action. Thus I see the only drawback in
the unblooded/blooded regent debate being that the unblooded regent
cannot STORE RPs - they have to continually generate them by the actions
they perform, which are then expended in the current domain action.
(Actually, if I was the designer of BR, regency would be different, but
oh well!). :)

Anyway, thats my view.

Cheers!
Darren

[Kenneth Gauck]

I think this style of rulership is very medieval, and not at all suited for
a Renaissance enviroment. Indeed its almost Arthurian. I think BR is about
the appartus of state, not heroic adventuring. I create a tention in my
campiagn between aquiring the skills to govern and aquiring the skills to
adventure. Its a fantastic realm, and adventuring will always be required,
just as monarchs continued to appear on the battlefield throughout the 18th
century. But the torch has passed in Brectür, Anuire, and Khinasi to the
apparatus of state. Its the more effective way to get things done.

Kenneth Gauck
c558382@earthlink.net

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cooper
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:07 PM
>
>IMHO, this is exactly the kind of action that *generates* RPs for a
>ruler - by personal action rather than commanding & overseeing things
>high up in their 'ivory towers'. Precedent has already been set in the
>LotHK supp, whereby several adventures allotted bonus RPs to successful
>completion of an adventure as a reward for good role-playing. IMO, this
>is exactly what Birthright is about.
>

[Jim Cooper]

Peter Wiyda wrote:
> I was looking in my rule book this morning because something you said
> struck me as odd, and what I found stated that while a regent of a
> temple has to be a cleric or paladin to collect RP, he or she can be of any other class and still attempt any domain turn, with out the help of RPs, they can do it all from fortify to collect offerings.<

Where did you find this? What page and rulebook?

Cheers,
Darren